Feb 192010

I’ve almost finished Part 3 of my cat gear guide, but I’d like to share my preliminary conclusion now, as it runs counter to the conventional wisdom.

Don’t gem ArPen for 10M.


Our 4pT10 set bonus is amazingly good, and will boost your DPS by 4-8%. Before, Rake was one of our lower DPE abilities, enough so that FB surpassed it. Now, we’ll want to maximize our Rake uptime. (After Rip/SR, of course.) Rake does not benefit from ArPen.

Also, the real benefits from ArPen comes from having it close to the cap, due to its scaling nature. The softcap at 722 is nice (with NES), but 10M buffs and gear simply do not provide the supporting stats necessary to support stacking it in most cases, though it’s very close. (BS/JC may swing things…haven’t tested that scenario.)

However, until you get 4pT10, ArPen is relatively stronger, and will be slightly superior in many cases depending on your offset pieces and raidcomp. It’s up to you how much regemming you want to do.

  12 Responses to “Preliminary Conclusion, 10M ICC gear analysis”

  1. My head is exploding from all this, but it’s still good info to have. Does Rawr take all this into account?

  2. Hi there,
    I see ur point and im goin the same lane. Ive tested playing on 1300+ Arpen but respeccing to Agi/Haste increased my DPS by at least 500. RAWR does kind of wrong calculations on the T10/4. Ill keep to haste until i go above 1380 Arp. The thing im curious about is why haste is that much over str after reaching the softcap. sry in case my english is that bad – im german ;) it would be nice to see some kind of relation haste : str for the highend content. My teammate who is feral specced too asked me why not gemming for str after the softcap / at the white critcap…

    greetings schicksal

  3. I was hoping that would be your conclusion! I have been going straight up AGI (well, AGI and whatever for off-colored gems… I hate grayed out socket bonuses, even when they suck) and I really don’t want to regem. I’m at 788 arp from gear alone.

    The annoying thing for me, now, has been trying to get back to my Expertise cap. Picked up the tier legs first to help out a bit. I hate seeing those dodges.

  4. /cry abysmally into a never ending well of eternity

    Im a strict 10 man raider who only gets to do 25 man pugs now and again. Ive been stacking Arp esp since T10 came out and im at the soft cap with NES.

    I get my 3rd piece of T10 tomorrow with any luck.
    Should i re-gem back to agi now or just when i get the 4Pc set?

    If Arp is bad for us does that mean that i should replace NES with something else such as the Herkuml War Token?

    I know… do the Rarw dance and see where it takes me 8)

    • I’ll address it more fully when I post the full analysis, but ArP is not a bad stat, it’s just less good with 4pT10. Pre-4pT10, softcapping ArP is still optimal. It also depends on your raidbuffs.

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