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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by aggixx » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:28 pm

If anyone's planning to participate in raid testing today I put some quick tips on optimizing in the current build on twitter:
https://twitter.com/PawketsWoW/status/4 ... 0287232001

Remember though, the purpose of raid testing is to test your own character just as much as the encounters, so don't be afraid to try other things so you can give feedback on them, even if they aren't optimal.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Tinderhoof » Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:40 pm

I second this. Remember we aren't close yet to a damage pass, so focus on how your mechanics work, and the raid mechanics work. Please do not give feedback on how hard anything hits or how "it hits like a wet noodle".

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by ShmooDude » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:37 pm

aggixx wrote:If anyone's planning to participate in raid testing today I put some quick tips on optimizing in the current build on twitter:
https://twitter.com/PawketsWoW/status/4 ... 0287232001

Remember though, the purpose of raid testing is to test your own character just as much as the encounters, so don't be afraid to try other things so you can give feedback on them, even if they aren't optimal.
Thanks for the WA, been trying to get an addon for the basic tracking like that up for hours, lol.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Alpheus » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:43 pm

Great post, sadly can't even log on to Mekkatorque at the moment.

@Sten: what are your thoughts on Prismatic Crystal? :D
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Amitty » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:35 am

I was watching Midwinter's attempts on The Butcher yesterday and got nicely surprised by Stenhaldi. I wasn't expecting to see him on the meters, but his damage was Top 3 on some attempts.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Cetlysm » Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:24 am

Was he using bear thrash?
That thing hits so fucking hard, that being said numbers are not tunned yet at all.
In my opinion it feels like feral is so clunky right now, even if you take the least broken talents, it needs some major fixing, the whole rake and stealth rake needs triple fixing.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Grondmaster » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:05 pm

He was using Bear Thrash. At least he switched to bearform every once in a while. Surprising thingwas that when Sloot showed Sten's talent he had Incarnation picked. I dont know if thats because fight mechanics or was he just testing.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Tinderhoof » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:26 pm

Incarnation looks very solid in it's current form. On top of that it's bugged so using Shred gives 5 combo points while Incarnation is up.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Cetlysm » Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:54 pm

I think they fixed the 5 cp bug, at least its not working for me right now on Mekkatorque
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by aggixx » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:01 pm

Nope, they didn't fix it, Glyph of Savage Roar is what causes it. And Incarnation is the best talent in that tier atm regardless of bugs.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Cetlysm » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:02 pm

oh right
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Spanja » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:47 pm

I don't know why but after switching spec from bear to cat, I still get the resolve buff :

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by ShmooDude » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:19 pm

Tiger’s Fury is now usable during Berserk.
From today's patch notes.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Cetlysm » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:19 pm

also
Thick Hide has been removed and its effects have been incorporated into Bear Form for Guardian Druids.
for all specs, no longer guardian only it seems
Bear Form now increases armor by 600% 330%
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by aggixx » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:40 pm

https://twitter.com/PawketsWoW/status/4 ... 9274900481

Seems like a little weird of a change to make but I won't complain to much. Like I said, I don't really see a compelling reason to change it when its been that way for years. Most likely means we'll be pooling before Berserk like I said in that twitter discussion. And we'll also be not caring about keeping Berserk synchronized with TF: you'll just use it when it comes off cooldown and TF will be up very shortly after to hit for the refuel on energy.

The bear form change is great though! Certainly no complaints here.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Cetlysm » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:46 pm

...Bite; worst Energy->Damage conversion.
Yeah, about that.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by aggixx » Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:53 pm

That shouldn't be news to anyone, if it wasn't the worst Energy to damage conversion Feral wouldn't work as a spec.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Cetlysm » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:02 pm

Yeah I get that but, it could have more uses or be more of a gamble to use, right now its only a risky reward to use because youre constantly waiting for procs, but on WoD its just a boring filler to dump stuff you don't need.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Untamable » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:06 pm

"Pool up to 100 -> Berserk -> Dump to 40 -> TF -> Dump to 0."

Actually, you can pool to 100 -> Berserk -> Shred or Rake -> TF and you wouldn't cap energy because of the Berserk perk. Or just pool to 85 and pop Berserk then TF.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by hullaballoonatic » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:12 pm

Why will we be forced to use it on FB anyways? Won't we be pairing it with incarnation for "ravage" spam or just using it in aoe situations like we already do and fitting a ludicrous number of swipes in? Feral has rarely been afraid to sit on 5 CPs since FB has always been so lackluster.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Untamable » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:14 pm

Well, Ravage has been removed. So Shred spam?
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by aggixx » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:26 pm

Untamable wrote:"Pool up to 100 -> Berserk -> Dump to 40 -> TF -> Dump to 0."

Actually, you can pool to 100 -> Berserk -> Shred or Rake -> TF and you wouldn't cap energy because of the Berserk perk. Or just pool to 85 and pop Berserk then TF.
Yeah I was talking about live, you can skip the 3rd step on beta more or less.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by aggixx » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:29 pm

hullaballoonatic wrote:Why will we be forced to use it on FB anyways? Won't we be pairing it with incarnation for "ravage" spam or just using it in aoe situations like we already do and fitting a ludicrous number of swipes in? Feral has rarely been afraid to sit on 5 CPs since FB has always been so lackluster.
Thats a good point, I should make sure FB is actually higher DPE than Shred during Inc.
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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by Tinderhoof » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:29 pm

The Incarnation buffed Shred pretty much is Ravage (which is what I think he meant). Actually because of DoC just holding combo points like we had done in the past isn't really a good idea. Better to use a finisher to get the PS to use the boost then just sit on it (provided of course nothing fell off). Also now that we have player fixed combo points seems a waste to not use a finisher where ever we can.

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Re: Alpha Testing

Post by aggixx » Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:58 am

I created a feedback thread specifically regarding Savagery, if you guys could read it and provide your opinion on the topic I would greatly appreciate it.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/13567376692
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