Timewalking BiS?

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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by aggixx » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:53 pm

2pT16 is a pretty good bonus for the opportunity cost you so you could go either way really. Personally I'd probably use all off-pieces. I think your best options for those slots are:

http://www.wowhead.com/item=32235/curse ... f-sargeras
http://www.wowhead.com/item=28755/blade ... -merciless
http://www.wowhead.com/item=70992/dreadfire-drape

but I'm not 100% sure, thats just the spare pieces I have sitting commented out in my profile.
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Mizore » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:02 am

Hello everyone,

I was wondering how good the 2-piece bonus from the Ulduar raid set (Tier 8) would be? It allows peridic damage from rake and rip to trigger clearcasting, which I thought might be strong when combined with the tier 16 2-piece bonus.


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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by aggixx » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:55 pm

Yep, looks right! Although some of the gemming can be tweaked as I'm not positive exactly how much crit you need to crit cap. You want to stack crit up to 52% while meeting the socket bonuses, and then put any excess budgeting you can into Agi. Also, Crit/Crit/Haste is better for the Ghost Iron Dragonling because mastery is pretty weak (I just have that wrong in the OP).
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Dropzone » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:56 am

Still can't get my staff to drop but pretty much all of my other gear is set
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Post by aggixx » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:21 am

Nice! I was able to finally get my chest this lockout which means I've got everything :D
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Dropzone » Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:09 am

yeah I just came to the conclussion that blizzard just hates me on loot :twisted:
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by AmadisAnguiano » Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:54 pm

Out of curiosity, would http://www.wowhead.com/item=77541 be better instead of Haste? It's less Crit than the other two cogwheels, but how is that affected by the scaling?

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Post by aggixx » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:58 pm

It gets scaled down significantly whereas the 85 cogwheels don't. Even if it didn't, it wouldn't be worth it because you're essentially gaining half that value in agility (you'd shift out of crit in other places to stay at the crit cap) and agi is not significantly better than double haste's value at all.
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by BurnOne » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:46 am

I'm not an engineer so I can't use the Cog Trinket. I'm assuming Assurance of Consequence doesn't work properly so is there a good alternative?

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Post by aggixx » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:03 am

Death's Choice is the second best as far as I know. Its basically Greatness with like 2 less agility or something.
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Post by Spanja » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:18 pm

Is the bis list exposed on first page only for BC timewalking ?
Because some of these items are below WoTLK item level.

Or did I miss something ?

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Post by aggixx » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:54 pm

Its targeted at WotLK, presumably there may be a few pieces different if you look at BC timewalking but I haven't had time to look into that specifically. Wowhead will hopefully have a feature that makes doing that very trivial compared to the mountain of work it is now so I'll be taking a look at that when its in.

The <160 item level items are there because they are simply better than any other option. Given that the name of the game is picking items that are overbudget, its not surprising some are overbudget enough to surpass a few item levels.
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Post by Forestdroad » Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:32 am

This is around the time I wish I held onto a lot of my old stuff. Vendored everything except Gao-Rei apparently :(

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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by BurnOne » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:24 pm

Silly question but can you tell me which specific gems you are putting in. Are they all the Sunwell gems?

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Post by aggixx » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:35 pm

(Mostly) any epic gems work. Sunwell gems tend to be the cheapest & easiest to acquire, but you need to use a different xpac for Rigid since its half budget for some reason.
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Elamari » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:06 am

I'm having trouble deciphering the enchants you listed in the OP. I was able to find the gems by pasting the number code in the WoW Head URL but when I do that for the enchant ID it gives me old items not in the game any more. Any chance of a normal list? Cheers.
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by aggixx » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:24 am

I copied the wowhead-ified version from Amadis' post to the OP, check the enchants on those.
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by BurnOne » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:12 am

I basically had none of these items so I'm still working at it. What is the 20 crit strike blue gem that you are socketing. I can't figure it out

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Post by aggixx » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:14 am

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=45987/rigid-stormjewel, more practically you can just use http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=32220/glint ... g-amethyst. The goal is to have 50% crit, so for every glinting you use you'd want to pick up another 10 crit somewhere else.
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Post by Yeva » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:43 pm

Touch of the Void is also another nice alternative, was doing 12-13k DPS alone last time Timewalking was up.

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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Elamari » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:13 pm

Posting again to ask if there is a straight up list of gems and enchants. When ever I click the wowhead links it takes me to the item but doesn't show any of the gems and enchants. I have been able to figure out the gems but putting the ID in the url, but it doesn't work for enchants.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong :/ links aren't working for me.

EDIT: After putting the enchant id number directly into wow head and scrolling through the results I think I've found the correct enchants.

Neck - Gift of Multistrike (wod)
Shoulders - Greater Tiger Claw Inscription (mop) http://www.wowhead.com/item=83007/great ... nscription
Cloak - Gift of Multistrike (wod)
Chest - Glorious Stats (mop) http://www.wowhead.com/item=74708/encha ... ious-stats
Wrist - Greater Agility (mop) http://www.wowhead.com/item=84557/formu ... er-agility
Gloves - Greater Agility (cata) http://www.wowhead.com/item=38967/encha ... or-agility
Waist - Eternal Belt Buckle http://www.wowhead.com/item=41611/eternal-belt-buckle
Legs - Shadowleather leg armour (mop) http://www.wowhead.com/item=83764/shado ... -leg-armor
Boots - Blurred Speed (mop) http://www.wowhead.com/item=74717/encha ... rred-speed
Rings - Gift of Multistrike (wod)
Weapon - Mighty Agility (cata) http://www.wowhead.com/item=68134/encha ... ty-agility

Let me know if this correct.
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Kojiyama » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:43 pm

For what it's worth, I've found Mirror of the Blademaster to be pretty powerful in Timewalking dungeons.
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Venustoise » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:13 am

i was thinking the same about the cape, i came across http://www.wowhead.com/item=46032/drape ... ss-general because it has 2 sockets! what do you think?! >> and also the http://www.wowhead.com/item=86879/gao-r ... -protector and shoulders and headpiece show that its raidfinder quality, is there a reason for that because it scales better? or is it best to get the heroic/mythic version? and isnt thisone better? http://www.wowhead.com/item=50735/oathb ... er-general ty for this list! im currently getting all the items :D i dont know what gems i should use cuz there are alot the same :|

Edit: ive just tested this with trinket chest neckless weapon but i dont see any increase in dps atall, i still dont have all the items but the ones i have are enchanted and gemmed, im using the staff i mentioned above, any enchant for it? or is mark of the thunderlord best for it?
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Re: Timewalking BiS?

Post by Arctagon » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:13 am

Is the stage 4 ring really better for timewalking than the legendary ring? Also, I take it the items under ‘BC’ are BiS for Burning Crusade timewalking along with the rest of the set under ‘WotLK’?

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