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Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:27 am
by Konomaru
Hi guy's looking for a little guidance, I've got a lv 860 Blood Rip relic and just got an 890 Blood Ferocious bite relic, is it still the 25 ilv rule for replacing relics or is the rip relic still better than the bite one ?

Re: Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:56 am
by Oronare
I think that is the general rule, HOWEVER, I've seen some posts saying through thorough testing the Rip relics still come off as much MUCH better, even when significantly lower ilevel. I've been using that and going for *only* rip relics.

Re: Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:21 am
by Wellwow
(Mostly copied from a post just made in another thread.) I suggest checking the discussion in this thread. It is partially based on the the relative weights of the relics from Xanzara's guide.

From that the guide, the FB relic is worth 0 but has a 30 ilevel bonus (use 10 because 30/3 (relic slots)) for a value of 10. The rip relic is worth 30; Rip is better.

There's also a guide in that thread to simming yourself with different relics if you want to see what the number difference would look like.

Re: Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:01 pm
by ShmooDude
Don't get too overly obsessed with Rip relics though, at least not if your other option is a Rake one. For example, I had a choice between an 895 Rake relic and an 885 Rip relic. The sims told me it was like 484k for the Rip and 483k for the Rake. I went with the Rake because:

1) Rarely do I ever seem to hit that 10% Ashamane's Rip damage, even on a pure ST like Nythendra
2) On anything other than pure ST, Rip's relative value tends to go down because its easier to multi-dot with Rake, and you're probably using more CP generators on things that don't have a Rip up on them (thus no chance at an AB proc).

Re: Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:23 am
by Metan
hi, what is better?

890 RIP or 905 Ashmanes energy

if i look to ask mr robot, its 890 RIP but if i use relic caluator, it say the Ashmanes energy if better... so?

Re: Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:06 pm
by Konungr
905 Ashamane's Energy

Re: Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:57 pm
by ShmooDude
only way to know for sure is to sim yourself

Re: Relic's and Ilv

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:42 pm
by Aliandren
AE relics last alt of value after you 4/4 your weapon trait. The issue is you will tend to overcap energy and lose that extra 5 thus meaning it almost worthless. I would not use AE unless it was 30 better than rake or 25 rip with my gear.