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Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:33 pm
by Warelder
I was wondering if anyone has insight on this new trait. Will this affect our abilities for their full duration? Or only affect them while it's up?

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:15 pm
by ShmooDude
Only while its up. Look at TF/SR/BT, they all have specific phrasing to say it works for the full duration.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:54 pm
by Lokoth
Do you think it will apply to bleeds already in place, or only to newly cast abilities?

I'm concerned we're getting a fourth buff to juggle for applying bleeds.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:19 am
by Twitchys
Anything that's not a specific snapshot buff should update dynamically, including Bloodletter's Frailty. Another example of an ability like this is Feral Instinct (the Berserk artifact trait). That said, I did not test the new trait personally so it could function differently once we get it.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:25 am
by Madsun
From what I can tell it just gives you 30% bonus damage for the duration of the buff on the target, think of it as a weaken armour debuff. The thing that got me on this is it specifically says "Targets" affected by your AF... so.. how does it hit multiple targets???

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:54 pm
by Ayleena
Targets might be referring to the bonused damage, so if you have hit swipe or have thrash up during frenzy it will apply the 30% to everyone afflicted.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:08 pm
by Istaro
Ayleena wrote:Targets might be referring to the bonused damage, so if you have hit swipe or have thrash up during frenzy it will apply the 30% to everyone afflicted.
While you have AF up on mob A, hitting mob B with e.g. thrash would not turn mob B into a target of AF.

"Ashamane's Frenzy also increases the damage your Feral abilities deal to afflicted targets by 30%." is simply a more compact and general way to write it than forcing the singular with e.g. "While Ashamane's Frenzy is doing damage over time to a target, your other Feral abilities do 30% more damage to that target".

That is, I'm pretty positive that the plural "targets" is just because over the course of your gameplay, you will use AF on a great many targets: one this minute, another next minute, etc.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:43 pm
by Madsun
Istaro wrote:
Ayleena wrote:Targets might be referring to the bonused damage, so if you have hit swipe or have thrash up during frenzy it will apply the 30% to everyone afflicted.
While you have AF up on mob A, hitting mob B with e.g. thrash would not turn mob B into a target of AF.

"Ashamane's Frenzy also increases the damage your Feral abilities deal to afflicted targets by 30%." is simply a more compact and general way to write it than forcing the singular with e.g. "While Ashamane's Frenzy is doing damage over time to a target, your other Feral abilities do 30% more damage to that target".

That is, I'm pretty positive that the plural "targets" is just because over the course of your gameplay, you will use AF on a great many targets: one this minute, another next minute, etc.
I think this is specifically as it should be interpreted. 7 words difference.. couldn't they have worded it like .. "After activating Ashamane's Frenzy, your Feral abilities deal 30% bonus damage to that target" .

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 2:23 pm
by Cluey
Bloodletter's Frailty
Ashamane's Frenzy also increases the damage your Feral abilities deal to afflicted targets by 30%.
From a Google search for afflicted:
afflict - verb
past tense: afflicted; past participle: afflicted
If you've got a DoT ticking on another target that target is afflicted by your Feral ability (Rake/Rip/Thrash).
So when you press Ashamane's Frenzy all of those DoT's will do 30% more damage for six seconds.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:07 am
by Madsun
Cluey wrote:
Bloodletter's Frailty
Ashamane's Frenzy also increases the damage your Feral abilities deal to afflicted targets by 30%.
From a Google search for afflicted:
afflict - verb
past tense: afflicted; past participle: afflicted
If you've got a DoT ticking on another target that target is afflicted by your Feral ability (Rake/Rip/Thrash).
So when you press Ashamane's Frenzy all of those DoT's will do 30% more damage for six seconds.
I see what you're saying.. targets afflicted by your Feral Damage rather than Ashamane's Frenzy
I hope that is right.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:21 am
by Nich
I've found I hold off on using AFrenzy a little in the opener. Once I have a buffed rip up, it's AF/Zerk and go to town to make the most of it.

I forgot to get it before raid this week, so I can only talk about it in m+ runs: having a short burst CD up every couple of packs is great. On bosses, tho', I feel like I gained an extra 1-150k dps. Single-target.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:14 am
by Metan
Nich wrote:I've found I hold off on using AFrenzy a little in the opener. Once I have a buffed rip up, it's AF/Zerk and go to town to make the most of it.

I forgot to get it before raid this week, so I can only talk about it in m+ runs: having a short burst CD up every couple of packs is great. On bosses, tho', I feel like I gained an extra 1-150k dps. Single-target.
how it looks? i try play without the nergy ring but on pull if i can more then 3 combo points to push savage roar. i wait and wait for energy. its terible open from me without ring.

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:25 am
by Zarzul
have any1 tryed Bloodletter's Frailty with legendary pants ?

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:58 am
by Madsun
Zarzul wrote:have any1 tryed Bloodletter's Frailty with legendary pants ?
Nope, is there any Synergy? Does the maim hit for much when you use pants?

Re: Bloodletter's Frailty

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:02 am
by Zarzul
mine crit for 2.1 mill and +30 % from the trait would be nice