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Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:54 pm
by Warelder
With the attached upcoming change to thrash, do you think thrash will be required for ST rotation? A 15% damage increase & energy reduction in combination with Luffa's & Thrashing Claws, I don't see how it can be ignored. This T19 2pc looks unavoidable if you're already on point with your rotation and are being energy efficient.

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:12 pm
by Konungr
Warelder wrote:With the attached upcoming change to thrash, do you think thrash will be required for ST rotation? A 15% damage increase & energy reduction in combination with Luffa's & Thrashing Claws, I don't see how it can be ignored. This T19 2pc looks unavoidable if you're already on point with your rotation and are being energy efficient.

Highly doubtful, considering it required T19 4PC & Luffa to make using Clearcasting Thrash even viable... It would require keeping T19 4PC, Luffa, and the 7.3 changes and it still would probably only be viable to be used with clearcasting procs.

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:32 pm
by ShmooDude
EDIT: Need to redo sims...

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:46 pm
by Warelder
Shmoodude... Perfect! The numbers are hard to argue with. In the above you noted this was not inclusive of the reduced energy cost,so is it safe to say the 15% dmg isn't included as well? If that's the case, without a doubt it will be part of the ST rotation.

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:48 pm
by ShmooDude
Actually need to redo them anyhow cause I realized I accidentally deleted ptr=1 in simcraft when doing it, lol.

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:55 pm
by Warelder
Lol

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:10 pm
by ShmooDude
Both include the 45 energy reduction.

My gear, T19_4pc, Inc/SR/BT

Luffa/Chat, T19_2pc, 9288 Mastery:
1175k - 100% Thrash (+2.3%)
1165k - CC Thrash (+1.4%)
1148k - No Thrash

Luffa/Chat, No T19_2pc, 9288 Mastery:
1155k - 100% Thrash (+0.6%)
1155k - CC Thrash (+0.5%)
1148k - No Thrash

Behemoth/SotA, No T19_2pc, 11076 Mastery
1249k - No Thrash
1239k - CC Thrash (-0.8%)
1223k - 100% Thrash (-1.6%)



My gear, T19_4pc, JW/SR/BT

Luffa/Chat, T19_2pc, 9288 Mastery:
1148k - 100% Thrash (+3.8%)
1129k - CC Thrash (+2.1%)
1105k - No Thrash

Luffa/Chat, No T19_2pc, 9288 Mastery:
1119k - 100% Thrash (+1.2%)
1116k - CC Thrash (+1.0%)
1105k - No Thrash

Behemoth/SotA, No T19_2pc, 11076 Mastery
1198k - No Thrash
1189k - CC Thrash (-0.8%)
1172k - 100% Thrash (-1.2%)



So If you use Luffa, yes you will single target Thrash (although without 2 pc it doesn't matter a whole lot), otherwise no just as Bliz intends.

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:15 am
by Sibylle
Guys, you're killing me. I feel enough of a noob coming back after a year (and then playing for a week and gone for another month or two) without you sounding like you've stopped using English! Wtf is "Luffa"? I'm fighting a strong visual of my druid sponging herself in the shower.

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:59 am
by Kurisu

Re: Thrash ST rotation Update

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:22 pm
by Sibylle
Oh, ok! Thank you, lol. Knew that legendaries were a thing this expac.