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Re: @Stenhaldi

Post by Stenhaldi » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:56 pm

Fattycopjr wrote:Stenhaldi, any reason you use 4-piece PVP to raid?
It's that good.

It's a combination of a powerful 4-piece bonus (worth roughly 5% damage) and the fact that PvP gear can be upgraded in parallel with PvE gear (I upgraded all four pieces the day 5.1 was released). It's also competing with mediocre PvE bonuses. I estimated originally that I'd need roughly two pieces of heroic tier (and two normal) for PvE set to beat upgraded PvP set. And while I certainly could have reached that point by now, I passed most of the tier pieces to other vanq-users in the raid since (because of the PvP set) the value-per-piece is smaller for me.

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Post by Sorcerer » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:27 pm

While I don't have time to PVP fully agree with stenhaldi. Playing without 4set bonus and still can rank easily #1, better to feed others with vanq ;d

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Re: @Stenhaldi

Post by Dysheki » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:04 pm

Not allowing upgrades to gear may hurt the PvP gear usage (depending on ilevels).

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Post by Fattycopjr » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:37 pm

Ah, it's probably too late in the game for me to actually pull that off with full upgrades on 4 SET, do you believe the 2Set to be better than the current tier twoset if upgraded? I only have 2500 CP this week.

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Post by Sorcerer » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:30 pm

It won't

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Post by Stenhaldi » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:32 pm

The current (pre-5.2) 2-set is just movement speed and it only works in Terrace. It's actually mildly useful on Tsulong and phase 1 Sha but nowhere near strong enough to be worth swapping out PvE gear.

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Post by aggixx » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:15 am

It works on Garajal and Garalon as well, I believe.
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Post by Etapicx » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:38 pm

In my eyes having PvP iteams set bonus being very good is one large upside when it comes down to gearing the raid comp fast because in Stenhaldi's situation nor was the PvP gear very good it was one less person to fight for Vanq tokens in the raid team.
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Post by aggixx » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:50 pm

Of course us having more viable options is good for the raid team, but that doesn't mean it's good design on Blizzard's part. Blizzard was aware that people were grinding CP for PvE upgrades at the beginning of T14 and we already know that they don't prefer that. We take it one step further in that we're not doing it for the stats, we're doing it for the set bonuses as well.
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Post by Etapicx » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:40 am

aggixx wrote:but that doesn't mean it's good design on Blizzard's part.
Of course not, but as a player that would grind that CP anyways i guess they didn't have a problem with it...
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